Friday, January 02, 2009

The Conduit - new pics & info

This a scan from the latest Nintendo Power with some new screens and info on The Conduit. Apparently there is a 007 type gun that can kill enemies with one shot. They also bring out that the game has nice pacing to it where there will be "bursts of action" and not too many lulls in between. Sounds like a good formula.

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

really looking forward to this game but one thing troubles mii its the previews stating its like a tech demo and the game its self is unpolished in terms of pacing story etc i hope it gets some polish in the areas outside graphics and controls

Anonymous said...

I just hope the gameplay lives up to the graphics.

Artistic Anarchy said...

The PS2 wants its graphics back.

Metaldave said...

Artistic Anarchy, are you trying to make some consistent comments about how bad the Wii's graphics are in almost each post?

If you are, I think it's great because I'm sure Cubeboy (I think that's who he is) will go ape all over you. lol.

Besides, The Conduit is doing things that aren't even possible on PS2 like Normal Mapping for example. The whole PS2 argument doesn't really work for this game.

However for other games that are just PS2 ports, that would totally make sense of course.

Anonymous said...

Cool.

Any other interesting articles in this NP issue?

(Is it the January one or December?)

Anonymous said...

Hell yeah this game is looking better and better as it reachs its launch and Artistic Anarchy you must be blind if you can't see the clear difference between PS2 graphics and The conduit graphics and i think your just one of those 360 fanboys. Whats wrong mad cause we have a game that matches 360 graphics.

Artistic Anarchy said...

The PS2 is capable of normal mapping... take alook at Matrix: Path of Neo for the PS2. The normal mapping here is a joke.

Metaldave said...

If the PS2 were truly capable of Normal Mapping, then why haven't any of the Wii ports of PS2 games (which were also on Xbox 360 and PS3) have any of the Normal Mapping that the other systems had? Besides that Matrix the Path of Neo was also on PC and the original Xbox which are both capable of Normal Mapping and any screens shown from Path of Neo are most likely the PC or Xbox version. Why would they should the worst looking version of the game if they had a choice?

Besides I think I've found some PS2 version screens of that game, take a look at this: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=926493&img=1&popup=1#view_full_size

See any Normal Mapping there? There is none. The game has some pretty horrid textures that Normal Mapping would only help make look more defined coming off the characters outfits.

The Wii is capable of many times the texture detail of the PS2.....wait a minute....the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2 as well!

Silly rabbit.

Artistic Anarchy said...

Anonymous... im mad in the first place that the wii doesn't have 360 graphics and doesn't have enough capabilities. And besides... the 360 fanboys are just laughing at The Conduit... so why would they be jealous.

Metaldave said...

360 fanboys are budget gamers anyway, since PC graphics blow away what a 360 can do.

This is the reason why I've always to this day been a Wii/PC guy. My PC can blow the Wii and The Conduit out of the water graphically, but that's not the point. I'm still very excited for The Conduit for the interactivity, story, and Wii-motion-plus. Also, to me The Conduit does in fact look impressive graphically. For a Wii game to look that good, it certainly impresses me a lot.

This tells me one thing; that Nintendo was right. Graphics have reached a saturation point where big gains are not going to be seen for while.

TanookiTravis said...

I can't believe you guys are giving Artistic Anarchy this much attention. He obviously isn't impressed with The Conduit, or a fanboy (it doesn't matter his reasons), but trying to argue with him is like arguing with a wall. The wall would be ignored otherwise but when you see someone arguing with it it brings unnecessary attention.

I say, let people walk by the wall and never give it a second thought. He's not gonna change his mind anyway. He's just a troll.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous... im mad in the first place that the wii doesn't have 360 graphics and doesn't have enough capabilities. And besides... the 360 fanboys are just laughing at The Conduit... so why would they be jealous.

11:53 PM, January 02, 2009


SO X360 OWNERS BASHING AN OUT DATED NON FPS SHOOTER NINTENDO COPY OBSOLETE CONTROLLER ARE LADFFING AT CONDUITS TRUE 3D MOUSE 3D MOTION TRUE NEXT GEN ONLY AVALIBLE ON WII TRUE FPS CONTROLS


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA APPARANTLY CRASHING GLITCHING FREEZING 3 RED LIGHTS OF DEATH AND A OUT DATED CONTROL PAD AND LONG LOADTIMES ARE NEXT GEN YES XBOX FANS WHAT EVER


THERES ONLY 2 NEXT GEN SYSTEMS IN EXISTENCE THE ONES THAT ACCUALLY SELL DS /Wii


jog on by fanboys

gamecube= 2.5 x ps2

wii = 2.5x gamecube


so do your math sony fans 5x geometry polygons and 10x textures at 480p for wii over ps2 with ease...

wii=8texture layers in 1 pass

ps2= 1 texture layer per 1 pass and no hardware bump mapping or texture effects

all fully supported in hollywood

xbox 1 gpu 128k to 256k gpu catch cannot read compressed data or textures 128k to 256k is your lot

hollywood wii gpu 3mb edram catch plus compression

plus 24mb 1tsram [plus compression

128kto 256k VS 27mb plus compression on the gpu


fanboys go away the specs clearly prove wii can do anything x360 can do at 480p

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fan zombies your getting boring and your consoles sales are flopping

Anonymous said...

metaldave exactly slight sorry very slight graphical upgrades for huge cash cost = stupid

Anonymous said...

gamecube won the so called graphics war last gen something xbox fans wont admit....


list of games totally unmatch by xbox/ps2 last gen

twilight princess

wind wader

resident evil 4

fzero

metroid prime 1/2

rouge sqodron 2/3

3rd party efforts that got extra gamecube polish and ended up being the best looking

time splitters 2 and 3

prince of pursure 3

beyond good and evil

lets stop pretending that ps2 and xbox didnt have IMENCE BOTTLENECKS AND ISSUES

long loadtimes and poor in game data streaming = loadtimes stutter and pop up GAMECUBE GAMES DID NOT

KILLZONE 30 FRAMES DROPPING TO 10 AND POP UP EVERYWERE


HALO 2 30 FRAMES DROPPING TO 12 POP UP AND GLITCHES AND LOADTIMES EVERYWERE

METROID PRIME 1/2 SOLID 60 FRAMES NO LOADTIMES NO POP UP


NOW TAKE THE GAMECUBE INCREASE POWER BY 2.5X (250%) MASSIVLY INCREASE DISC SIZE AND UP LOAD SPEED PRESTO A 480P X360 WITH NO LOADTIMES AND TRULLY 3D NEXT GEN GAMEPLAY


SONY FANS AND XBOX TARDS GO AWAY YOUR CONSOLE DESIGN AND CONCEPT HAS BEEN PROVEN OBSOLETE DOESNT WII/DS SALES PROVE THAT FACT

Anonymous said...

maybe sony fans would like to enlighten us with the littlebigplanet glitches bugs and crashes being reported in mass.....

maybe the x360 fans would enlighten us with the gears of war 2 glitches bugs freezes and crashes

and maybe both would like to enlighten us with reasoning to both consoles outrageous loadtimes in game ps3 being the biggest FAG in this area

maybe x360 fans would enlighten us in how such a game as gears wouldn't be massively better with wiimote full 3d motion and aim

same goes little big planet wouldnt a point and drop device make those self build games and interactive things much much easier and better to interact with and build i.e a wiimote


your consoles are re-hashes of old outdated console ideas only ds/wii are next gen please wake up and smell the coffe grown on planet HONEST

HHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM FANBOYS VS NINTENDO SUPERIOR GAMING INTELLECTS

GO BASH THAT DUALSHOCK YOU SO CALLED NEXT GEN GAMERS

IM LAFFING RIGHT IN YOUR OBSOLETE CONSOLE OWNING FACE

2.7 million wiis December cough cough just a reminder

Artistic Anarchy said...

"Big gains not going to be seen for a while?"

What are you smoking? There are alot of amazing-looking 360 and PS3 titles coming out in 2009, and it doesn't look like it will ever stop. That statement is bullshit. Miyamoto needs to retire because he's a raving lunatic.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Metaldave what good is having graphics if you can't enjoy the game.Think about it with other consoles you just press buttons and move joystick and it looks pretty but the wii can make you do this on level of interactivity that is only possible on wii.

Anonymous said...

this guy on this post always waiting to put the wii graphics down when it is ten times the power of ps2 look at MH3 some times this makes me laugh oh and the wii can do everything graphically that 360 can do if someone could be bothered MH3 is one of the best looking games period on any console

Rukasiu said...

PS2 is not capable of normal mapping. Only Xbox, Cube and Dreamcast have it.

X360 mostly have ports of FPS which can be play on PC.
They runs smoother have better graphic and online is free.

Conduit have good graphic controls are better than analog sticks and online will be free.

Metaldave said...

Hey I actually think it's nice that we have an "any else but Wii is better" fanboy here. We usually have Wii fans only, so this is a nice chance of pace.

Defending what you like is what the internet is all about.

Artistic Anarchy said...

Metroid Prime 3 looks like the first Quake on steroids... it doesn't look that impressive and it never did. I don't know what you guys are smoking.

Metaldave said...

Well it's Monday and there is not really news or info to report yet. I'm sure there will be a lot of stuff later on.

The Metroid Prim 3 comment is hilarious btw.

Anonymous said...

About the Metroid Prime comment...
(I just looked at some Quake screenies)

So not only is he arrogant, he's also ignorant!

God help ya!

Arius Dion said...

Metroid Prime 3 is not only a gorgeous game, fluidly running at 60fps, but artistically dwarfs anything I've seen on the HD consoles. The controls are just as fluid as the graphics. It is a masterpiece of a game.

M.Dave, I agree wholeheartedly, graphics have hit a plateau. And honestly whatever an HD console can do graphically, the PC destroys is easily. HD consoles try to mimic PC's and they do a bad job of it.

Anonymous said...

METROID PRIME 3 IS A BETTER LOOKING GAME THAN HALO3 AND IT RUNS AT TWICE THE FRAMERATE HD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT...

IT ALSO LOADS FASTER AND HAS FAR LESS LOADING INTERUTIONS AND IT HAS TRUE 3D MOUSE 3D MOTION FPS CONTROLS ALL X360 FPS GAMES ARE PLAYED ON A OUT DATED OBSOLETE NINTENDO INNOVATION COPYING PAD THATS A DIRECT RIPP OFF OF THE DREAMCAST CONTROL PAD


WII = NEXT GEN

X360= DREAMCAST CONTROLS WITH ADDED ANALOG


TRY BEING HONEST X360 FANS

Anonymous said...

xbox 1 gpu 128k to maybe 256k graphics catch no compression read ability 480p max res

ps2 4mb rambus ram edram(slow) gpu catch no compression 480p max res

wii 3mb edram 1tsram-r plus 24mb 1tsram-r plus compression and realtime decompression 27mb vs 4mb or 256k sram to gpu

wii can have 108 x more sram to its gpu than xbox 1 and that doesn't count texture compression and data compression with on the fly de-compression

all data/textures have to de compress on xbox 1 before entering the catch of only 128k to 256k max

wiis chip set bandwidth is at least 4x xbox 1


wiis cpu vs x360 and ps3

ps3 cell does all functions as main cpu

x360 does all functions as main cpu

wii has a dedicated op system cpu a broadway true cpu and a sound chip - HD wii can do anything the others do and HD is not GRAPHICS


a lot of power in ps3 x360 is wasted on supporting resolution rather than actual performance 480p is a easy resolution to render and wii has a 720p fill rate capability


the real world difference graphically between wii and ps3 is slight stop with the fantasy's that ps3 x360 have some kind of super graphics that don't exist

even a top top spec pc running games at super high res still only look slightly better than wii to the naked eye there's no graphics war anymore its capped out
hd is just slightly sharper image via a higher resolution

stop calling hd graphics


play qauke 3 arina at 480p on a pc then play it at 1080p it doesn't magically look way better it just looks slightly sharper WHY

because hd aint graphics IS IT


you got HD MARKETING conned by the company's you fan


HD MARKETING IS A GIMMICK

3d motion 3d mouse is a genuine evolution in gaming


and thats a FACT


more pixels is more important to gaming than 3d motion 3d mouse if you believe that your a insane fanboy

Artistic Anarchy said...

Are you kidding me? Metroid Prime 3 looked weak not only on next-gen standards, but also on last-gen. The graphics never looked good at all. If you compared it to Halo, the game looked horrific. It just looks like a souped up Quake engine. The weak-ass engine that Retro Studios used completely destroyed the art style... making it looked washed out and unattractive. You guys don't know anything about graphics.

Metaldave said...

fight! fight! fight!

who will throw the next punch?

Artistic Anarchy said...

We are having a discussion, not a fight. Besides, the anonymous idiot who doesn't know when to turn his caps lock off posts Wii's tech specs that doesn't have any factual basis, as we can see from the PS2 graphcis the Wii has been displaying.

Has it ever occurred to any of you that the Wii doesn't have any processing power as you think it does? It's been 3 years already and the Wii has yet to produce any good graphics.

Anonymous said...

metroid prime looks weak

yes and those pigs are flying south for winter

and the frogs are all having sex as its snowing

and dogs are fuking cats in the street

and maybe even rain comes from the ground and hits clouds

shut up x tard go home get your dead 3 red lights of death loud assed fan dreamcast wantabe controller i have no identity i have no history gaming gate crashing bill gates set top box war hype box and bash that d-pad that nintendo innovated and bill gates stole

or twoddle that analog stick that nintendo innovated and bill gates stole

or maybe enjoy that feed back from rumble that againnnnnn nintendo innovated


NIN - TEN- DO ARE GAMING YOU GOOF BALL

NINTENDO IS TO GAMING WHAT A BALL IS TO FOOTBALL IT IS THE GAME AND EVERYTHING IN IT

THE SONY/BILL GATES ZOMBIES IGNORANCE IS SHOCKING


SHOW ME ONE VALID REASON TO SUPPORT MICROSOFT

BECAUSE HISTORY MERIT INNOVATION ATTENTION TO QUALITY ARE SOMETHING TO FAN AND THATS WHAT NINTENDO STAND FOR


NOT POP UP CRASHES OUT DATED STOLEN CONTROLS LONG LOADTIMS AND POOR BUILD QUALITY

GET A GRIP OF GAMINGS REALITY SONY/MICROSOFT

DIDNT Wii NINTENDO FANS WORN YOU NINTENDO WAS A GIANT A SLEEPING DRAGON

YOU SIMPLY DIDNT LISTEN TO REASON AND WISDOM I.E NINTENDO FANS

oh just in some strong rumors that wii did 3 million dec in usa not 2.7mil


OUCH THE FACTS KEEP GROWING wii rules all

god there's nothing better than sqeezing the bullshit out of a sony fanboy LOL

Anonymous said...

The only conclusion I can come to after reading his last post about MP3:

Artistic Anarchy must be blind!

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding me? Metroid Prime 3 looked weak not only on next-gen standards, but also on last-gen. The graphics never looked good at all. If you compared it to Halo, the game looked horrific. It just looks like a souped up Quake engine. The weak-ass engine that Retro Studios used completely destroyed the art style... making it looked washed out and unattractive. You guys don't know anything about graphics.

2:43 PM, January 05, 2009

ARTISTIC SAID THE ABOVE


GUESS WHAT MY FRIEND COD 4 COD WORLD AT WAR AND COD 3 ETC

ARE QUAKE 3 ENGINE "UPGRADED"

DONT YOU LOOK STUPID NOW COD 4 ENGINE IS A UPGRADED QUAKE 3 ENGINE YOU JUST BOASTED YOUR SELF ON TO THE FRONT PAGE OF DUFFUS DAILY NEWS

TYPICAL OF SONY AND BILL GATES FANS TO DO THIS MAKE GOOFS OF THEM SELFS



the qauke 3 engine is the base of the qauke 4 engine and thats what ps3 x360 are running wen you play cod 4 doesnt one want to take back there above comment toooo late buddy boy the internet has your stupidity on it for the globes population to see

I REST MY CASE SONY AND BILL FANS ARE STUPID

Artistic Anarchy said...

The original Call of Duty engine was based off of the Quake 3 engine, but it is not the first Quake, so it is a moot point. The CoD4 engine is proprietary, meaning it is all-new and not based off of any old code. Know your facts. The Metroid Prime engine is based off of the orginal Quake engine, and even if the other ones are based off of it, it does it better than Metroid Prime because it looks just as good as a busted, old, condemned building. Metroid Prime just looks shitty compared to 100% of the games out there.

Metaldave said...

Ok Artistic Anarchy, I've let you have your fun. I won't be posting anymore of your comments until you stop just trying to make outlandish comments that don't make any sense just to continue a pointless arguement. I'll be glad to post a comment of yours that is honest and not just for attention.

Nintendo 64 had better looking games than the original Quake, so by this reason alone I can see your comments are not honest.


Metroid Prime 3 is one of the Wii's best looking games and the frame rate is better than most PS3 games. I don't think I've seen a PS3 game running at 60 frames (there are probably some but I haven't seen any) The art direction and Bloom lighting to go along with the frame rate in Metroid Prime 3 makes it look gorgeous regardless if the game is not in HD or pushing the same amount of polygons as the other guys.

So that was kinda interesting, lets move on.

Anonymous said...

I used to think graphics where everything but the games on the xbox 360 and ps3 just have better graphics thats all. Nothing new and if you look at gaming history the console with the least power has always been the winner. The psone beat the n64 and dreamcast in terms of sales, the ps2 beat the gamecube and xbox in sales and the wii beats all of this generation of consoles in terms of sales.

TanookiTravis said...

Not to mention the DS is beating the PSP and the Gameboy beat the SEGA Game Gear which at the time had better graphics and color.

Also, congrats MetalDave on having the longest comments section for a single post I've ever seen. Over 30 comments, that's pretty good.

Anonymous said...

most 360/ps3 games run at 20-30 fps half of wii games 60 fps MP3 graphics are sharp and very good for 60 fps because every game on 360/ps3 the graphics get pushed and frame rate is sacrifised Ps3 was meant to do 120 fps my ass wii is doing better for frame rate

ECC said...

im upset i missed this battle of epic proportions.

Anonymous said...

Well, What Nintendo said was true, Console gaming has reached its cap in graphics on the Ps3 and X-box 360, The Wii is the only system that needs to catch up, The conduit looks amazing now, I've seen the game live on Tv at Pax and that was an old build and it looks pretty close to a Xbox 360 game, I think the Wii has so much power, like someone mentioned above that it has enough fillrate to do 720p. Altho i don't think The conduit is the game to truly push the system, but its doing a good job, I'm hoping to see better games than the conduit graphically in the future, as soon as developers start actually trying!

lennell said...

the game in the future that will push the wii to its limits is going to be from factor 5.