tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post5320021255721057915..comments2024-01-22T14:27:20.039-08:00Comments on NintenGen: *Speculation* Wii U GPU vs. Xbox 720 GPU (update)Metaldavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03933993273752328453noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-32227258703936572792012-08-01T15:18:39.482-07:002012-08-01T15:18:39.482-07:00Anonymous vita defending sane person. I wish you h...Anonymous vita defending sane person. I wish you had a name so I can thank you for being sane.<br /><br />Just a few things.<br /><br />The main processors in the 3ds are clocked at 268 MHz. Thats cpu AND gpu AND fcram.<br /><br />So that 400 crap can go out the window, rabid 3ds fans. Thats what the MAX The pica can be clocked at is.<br /><br />That also includes the second cpu core. So, its not 33MHz. But it IS typically LOCKED as a media core and not available for games. Nintendo did make an exception at capcoms behest.<br /><br />The 3ds also has an audio dsp, at 136MHz, so cpu is not burdened by audio<br /><br />The pica is ALSO fixed function. Although its library and the way its encoded in actual silicon IS most clever and fantastically performing, its still FIXED.<br /><br />The 15 million triangles is per 100 MHz, so at 268Mhz were looking at more like 40 million triangles, but its still a far cry from vita.<br /><br />Its ram is simply put, amazing. It outperforms the vita ram heavily MB to MB... But the difference in capacity is way too much.<br /><br />The 3ds will NOT outperform a vita.<br /><br />If you want that level of performance, GET A VITA.<br /><br />The 3ds CAN perform the majority of the same effects currently seen in ps360 games, which is what ign said.<br /><br />But it is nowhere near as powerful. Get it for the fantastic first party and capcom games. Get it for the 3d. Its a great system. Dont make up crap about how it does compared to another system to make yourself feel better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-4728900811627820182012-06-27T13:49:53.408-07:002012-06-27T13:49:53.408-07:00As long as the games are good I won't care if ...As long as the games are good I won't care if the WiiU was seventy times as weak as Microsoft's or Sony's 8th gen home consoles. Sheer processing alone cannot be enough to stay in the competition.Peter R.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-13490994080721627842012-06-19T13:15:23.247-07:002012-06-19T13:15:23.247-07:00Lol who said the vitas gpu was at 300 MHz lol that...Lol who said the vitas gpu was at 300 MHz lol that was the first PSP pu rate the vitas gpu can go up to 800 mhz, lol it only take 500 MHz to run dead space 2....O.O. great idea lol dead space 3 on the vita fuck yeahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-80162557837070818042012-06-18T16:27:19.191-07:002012-06-18T16:27:19.191-07:00I still like the fact that the 3ds 400 MHz gpu is ...I still like the fact that the 3ds 400 MHz gpu is much faster than the vitas 300 MHz gpu. 3ds needs more gpu power to put out 3d technology. I'm also sure that nobody would want their vita CPU clocked at 2 ghz cuz it would completely melt the system. Just wait for future system updates and games and we'll see which system has the better hardware.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-75349148120657088532012-06-03T17:15:34.977-07:002012-06-03T17:15:34.977-07:00So excited for Wii U!!!!!So excited for Wii U!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-90500464168777637602012-02-17T22:52:07.332-08:002012-02-17T22:52:07.332-08:00Wow, so many bungled, uninformed, completely ludic...Wow, so many bungled, uninformed, completely ludicrous comments on here from posters that seemingly have absolutely no understanding of technology both in design philosophy and modern practice. First to go are the comparisons painting the 3ds as powerful as the Vita, no...just no. The 3DS uses proprietary technology based on an older design and is by far LESS powerful than what is found in the Vita. There is honestly NO factual comparison that puts the 3DS hardware even close to being comparable to the Vita's hardware. The 3DS GPU (DMP Pica200) is capable of a theoretical 15 million polygons per second vs the Vita GPU's (PowerVR SGX543) 133 million polygons per second real-world performance. Fill rates also reflect the Vita WAY ahead of the 3DS with the Vita @ 4 GPixels/s and the 3DS @ 0.8 GPixels/s. Also your comparing a psuedo dual core CPU in the 3DS to a true quad-core CPU in the Vita. The 3DS has one core running at 133mhz and the second core (an older model ARM core) running at 33mhz (presumably for secondary screen functions...vs the Vita which runs four ARM Cortex A9 cores presumably @ 800mhz-1000mhz with the cores being capable of 2000mhz tops. Then there was the poster that said that the 3DS has a better screen than the Vita, no way man. The Vita has an OLED multi-touch capacitive screen with 960x544 resolution @ 220ppi, versus the older screen technology (again proprietary based on older hardware) of the 3DS. Color production alone elevates the Vita way over the 3DS not even accounting for the greater pixel density in the Vita.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-62839242059298039752012-02-02T09:43:10.435-08:002012-02-02T09:43:10.435-08:00The truth is Nintendo is efficient. All of the gra...The truth is Nintendo is efficient. All of the graphic whore developers are happy except id and they are too busy trying to stay afloat. The system is so good they are stealing talent now. The uncharted artist and now a programmer from crytek. They are going to take a 4 core monster and make it run like a 12 core beast! The edram and system on a chip design will make sure this will be your next gameboy or ds as the chip simply keeps shrinking. <br /><br />The gpu is very capable but nintendo just added edram to the mix. The wiiu setup is what the cell was suppose to be. <br /><br />With the edram being shared with the gpu and CPU this turns the CPU into a comput shader which is way more powerful than what current pc cards even have. <br /><br />The bottleneck that the ps3 has is effectively removed. Now 2d games can use the comput shader to do AI on the gpu if need be. The solid state storage drive takes out the slow access times of hard drives. I almost wish Nintendo built pcs now lol. <br /><br />Most people don't understand what a fast system bus and ram can do for an old chip. It's common knowledge these chips needed faster ram and it doesn't get any faster than soc a chip ram or edram. <br /><br />This will be the first hd console that performs as advertised. Also the guys saying they don't want a new system doesn't understand he'd gaming at above 20fps is the true next gen leap. Any thing better than that is simply over shooting even the core market. It's very obvious that the core does not even understand computer tech any more. There is so much bad info out there now that a lot of people are going to become frustrated when the wiiu out performs the other system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-7263257611605257692012-02-01T02:52:27.383-08:002012-02-01T02:52:27.383-08:00I don't need graphic numbers to prove Playstat...I don't need graphic numbers to prove Playstation Vita is an absolute joke sir. It launched during the holidays and they still barely got half of what 3DS got in sales during it's launch despite being released during a period where sales slow to a crawl (3DS: almost 800,000 in two months; PS Vita: 500,000 in two months). And 3DS is supposed to be making a profit in April while Vita might take three years for that to happen.<br /><br />So yeah; PS Vita is a joke; but it's not the specs dude. It's the games. Nintendo is far ahead on that even with third parties.Gregory Weaglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-59627701308176320902012-01-31T21:30:11.403-08:002012-01-31T21:30:11.403-08:00DID U KNOW that pixels per inch the 3DS is slightl...DID U KNOW that pixels per inch the 3DS is slightly higher than psvita plus 3D <br /><br />did you know 3DS has a higher gpu clock speed than psvita and the 6mb gpu fast ram <br /><br />vita is 200mhz gpu vs 3DS 268mhz and psvita has no gpu edram/sram and 3DS has 6mb fcram on say a 512bit bus making it perform like EDRAM <br /><br />psvita is no 3DS beater check out any core title on vita uncharted resistence all of them would be that good on 3DS with ease THEN AD 3D <br /><br />vita is a sad joke AND its gpu is hypedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-36694965775699722912012-01-30T00:58:48.231-08:002012-01-30T00:58:48.231-08:003DS has 1.6 Mpixel fill rate,GPU runs at max 400mh...3DS has 1.6 Mpixel fill rate,GPU runs at max 400mhz,128mb FCRAM 4x faster than ps3 RAM,CPU is Dual 300mhz,<br /><br />ps2 555 million fill rate/gpu 133mhz<br />gamecube 666 million/166mhz<br />360 3.2 Mpixel fillrate/500mhz<br />ps3 4.0 Mpixel fillrate/550mhz<br /><br />3DS/gpu 400mhz very close to 360 graphics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-49345791590686007372012-01-26T14:03:48.263-08:002012-01-26T14:03:48.263-08:00wii 3mb gpu edram @ 480p 640x480p to 800x480p 243m...wii 3mb gpu edram @ 480p 640x480p to 800x480p 243mhz<br />3DS 6mb gpu ram @ 800x240p 268mhz far more than wii basically 2x wii fillrate and memory....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-73225713274455144142012-01-26T07:30:28.036-08:002012-01-26T07:30:28.036-08:00I heard the rumour that the next generation consol...I heard the rumour that the next generation consoles will have more than enough power to keep their respected fans happy. <br /><br />But that just a rumour I heard floating around.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017627173674962025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-30718869109250664702012-01-25T15:26:25.395-08:002012-01-25T15:26:25.395-08:00GREg my dear uneducated dude
3DS=Wii plus at 3.5 ...GREg my dear uneducated dude<br /><br />3DS=Wii plus at 3.5 inchs and 800x240p with upto date shaders = x360 like graphics,3.5 inches is 10x less area than a 35 inch hd tv screen and 800x240p is around 5 to 7 x less resolution <br /><br />so a 268mhz gpu and 6mb local ram IS IN FACT higher than 500mhz and 10mb local ram at 720p....<br /><br />nextbyou will claim people said 3DS is HD <br /><br /><br />wen building a 3DS game devs only aim at small screen and SD-ish resolution thats as effective as say 720p on say a 40 inch screen VIEWING OPTICAL FACT do the math AT 3.5 INCHES AT 800X240P = x360 like performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />3DS has more fillrate and gpu ram than wii yet only uses it in a mobile way = bigbig performance<br /><br />x360 like graphics @ 3.5 inchs 800x240p does not require x360 power THATS KINDA OBVIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />over 1gpixel fillrate at 240p vs 4gpixel gpu at 720p= THE SAMEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-51643963454104858502012-01-25T15:15:27.943-08:002012-01-25T15:15:27.943-08:00LOOK I HATE IGN AND THERE FULL OF IT ,,,BUT at no ...LOOK I HATE IGN AND THERE FULL OF IT ,,,BUT at no point in human history did they claim 3DS was as powerful as x360 THAT NEVER HAPPENED at least try to be honest.....<br /><br />example ps3/x360 fans said nintendo said graphics dont matter....<br /><br />what nintendo actually said was GRAPHICS ALONE NO LONGER ENOUGH !!!!!!!<br /><br />what ign said was 3DS can do x360 like games/graphics WITCH IS 100% FACT , resident evil revolations is just the start!!!!<br /><br />3DS gpu is 268mhz and 6mb fast ram for only 800x240p /x360 is 500mhz and 10mb edram for 720p= 3DS does x360 level graphics at 800x240p and mini screen = what ign saidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-22504063587916602162012-01-25T11:35:26.486-08:002012-01-25T11:35:26.486-08:00Yeah I heard that rumor too, but it's just a r...Yeah I heard that rumor too, but it's just a rumor from a source no where near as trusted as IGN. Also, IGN stated 2 things about the Wii U in the article: It's 20% less powerful than Xbox 720 and 5x more powerful than Xbox 360. I doubt they are wrong on both, so even if the Wii U is only twice as powerful as the original Xbox 360, the Xbox 720 is only 20% more than that. I find it hard to believe.Metaldavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933993273752328453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-76937779150248134512012-01-25T10:23:05.452-08:002012-01-25T10:23:05.452-08:00@MetalDave: New Rumor: http://www.develop-online.n...@MetalDave: New Rumor: http://www.develop-online.net/news/39593/Wii-U-twice-as-powerful-as-Xbox-360<br /><br /> Very convenient that this rumor was released just a few days AFTER the IGN rumor. Someone's playing foggy eyes again. <br /><br /> Still better than the 50% rumor though; so it's a thumbs up either way. If IGN is telling the truth here; we are in for something special. Although; I suspect third parties will be porting like crazy, mostly during the first six to nine months after launch. It's normal MO for them anyway.Gregory Weaglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-76733343110805944272012-01-25T10:08:22.790-08:002012-01-25T10:08:22.790-08:00IGN did not say the 3DS was as powerful as the Xbo...IGN did not say the 3DS was as powerful as the Xbox 360/PS3, what they said was that games looked similar to what could be done with those systems. <br /><br />As far as IGN's spec leaks in the past, they have been right every single time (surprisingly).Metaldavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933993273752328453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-78938490896799008202012-01-25T08:22:12.642-08:002012-01-25T08:22:12.642-08:00Interesting comparison. However; I take IGN specul...Interesting comparison. However; I take IGN speculation with a barrel of salt; even if it's a Microsoft leak. This is the same group that claimed 3DS was as powerful as XBOX 360/PS3; and that turned out to be false. It was around Gamecube/Wii level, which is still pretty good.Gregory Weaglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-10503052979951012012-01-25T05:15:12.996-08:002012-01-25T05:15:12.996-08:00I just can't wait to see a nintendo made game ...I just can't wait to see a nintendo made game on the wii u. And hopefully we will get a Capcom vs nintendo game.predatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-62466979203998471242012-01-25T02:42:16.500-08:002012-01-25T02:42:16.500-08:00a lot of people thought wiiu would be 50% more pow...a lot of people thought wiiu would be 50% more powerful like who!!!! it was delibratly claimed that it was by industry anti nintendo idiots and fanboys <br /><br />theres no graphics war anymore in realityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-64178439957809830682012-01-25T01:01:50.617-08:002012-01-25T01:01:50.617-08:00LOL @ 20% MORE = NO MORE AS IY TAKES MULTIPUL LEAP...LOL @ 20% MORE = NO MORE AS IY TAKES MULTIPUL LEAPS TO GET ANY DIFFERENCE @ tv resolutions it matters nothing....<br /><br />wiiu pad and wii motion plus remote VS a camera LOL MSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com