tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post2038897618070235842..comments2024-01-22T14:27:20.039-08:00Comments on NintenGen: More Third Party devs threaten to leave Sony for NintendoMetaldavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03933993273752328453noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-83104289701359160602009-03-19T14:51:00.000-07:002009-03-19T14:51:00.000-07:00http://newlevelgaming.blog-city.com/capcoms_5_year...http://newlevelgaming.blog-city.com/capcoms_5_year_plan_did_not_include_wii.htm<BR/><BR/><BR/>go read oh look nintendo won via DISRUPTION VS XBOX/ SONY/ AND 3RD PARTY'S THIS IS NINTENDO DECLARING A GAMING WAR ON THE WORLD AND WINNING..... <BR/><BR/>NINTENDO PEARL HARBORED BOTH OTHER CONSOLE MAKERS AND ALL 3RD PARTYS WHY DID THEY DO THIS TO LET THOSE """LESS POWERFUL""" UNDERSTAND WHOS IN CHARGE <BR/><BR/>NINTENDO WAS CALLED A SLEEPING DRAGON BY FANS DO YOU NOW UNDERSTND WHY <BR/><BR/>ALSO OFICIALLY MAN FOR MAN HOUR FOR HOUR NINTENDO IS THE MOST PROFITABLE COMPANY ON EARTH <BR/><BR/>LIVE WITH FACT INSTEAD OF FANBOYING SONY/MICROSOFT FANSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-10221659053686221232009-03-19T14:43:00.000-07:002009-03-19T14:43:00.000-07:00the ps3 x360 goofs among us keep insisting Nintend...the ps3 x360 goofs among us keep insisting Nintendo's motion controls are some quick buck thought at the last minute console seller that's a fad FUNNY WEN ASKED ABOUT GAMING IN THE SNES ERA SHIGSY CLEARLY STATED <BR/><BR/>I AWAIT A DAY WERE YOU CAN INTERACT IN A 3D WORLD LIKE A PUPPETEER FUNNY THAT DREAM CAME TRUE ITS CALLED Wii <BR/><BR/>this was planned 20 years ago nintendo waited for cheap tech to catch up <BR/><BR/>AGAIN THE SONY/MICROSOFT FANBOYS OPINIONS ARE BLOWN AWAY AS MEAR NET MYTHS INVENTED BY STUPID PEOPLE <BR/><BR/>I.E BIRDMENAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-73543322230356346642009-03-19T13:07:00.000-07:002009-03-19T13:07:00.000-07:00Do you all understand English?Just want to make su...Do you all understand English?<BR/>Just want to make sure...<BR/><BR/>So, where in my comments did I write that Wii was not next gen? I wrote that Nintendo is owning the industry all over the place. How did you miss that? I even wrote this:<BR/><BR/>"<BR/>MS and Sony have lost.<BR/><BR/>So now whoever believed that HD (cough... HIGH COST...cough) games were the future, is now paying the price.<BR/>"<BR/><BR/>How does that translate to:<BR/><BR/>"SONY/MICROSOFT FANBOYS" ???<BR/><BR/>Again, do you all understand English? Are you sure you are reading all the words carefully?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-91213181797586337162009-03-19T09:01:00.000-07:002009-03-19T09:01:00.000-07:00WHOS BEING DISRUPTED IF WII HAS NO COMPETITION.......WHOS BEING DISRUPTED IF WII HAS NO COMPETITION.... PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS INTELLIGENT SONY/MICROSOFT FANBOYS PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS AWAY.....<BR/><BR/>YOUR THINKING LIKE BIRDMEN JUST LIKE THE BIRDMEN ARTICLE SAYSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-49840373620732890292009-03-19T08:59:00.000-07:002009-03-19T08:59:00.000-07:00the only differance in concept is thus FACTUAL NOT...the only differance in concept is thus FACTUAL NOT OPINION <BR/><BR/>WII IS NEXT GEN NEW GEN FORWARD <BR/><BR/>PS3 AND X360 ARE OLD GEN NOT NEW OLD CONCEPT IN OTHER WORDS THERE OBSOLETE WII AND DS AND NEW GEN PSP PS3 AND X360 ARE OLD GEN <BR/><BR/>THATS FACTUAL DONT EVEN TRY AND AGUE IT <BR/><BR/><BR/>NINTENDO S Policy IS BLUE OCEAN VIA disruption<BR/><BR/>if wii isnt in competition with ps3 and x360 <BR/><BR/>THEN WHO IS NINTENDO DISRUPTING THEMSELFS <BR/><BR/>PS3 X360 ARE IN DIRECT COMPETITION THAT IS A FACT <BR/><BR/><BR/>funny those saying otherwise wouldnt be saying it if wii wasnt the lead format ITS CALLED BEING A FANBOYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-42371316941474792432009-03-19T07:24:00.000-07:002009-03-19T07:24:00.000-07:00Arius Dion said...Also doesn't Malstrom also state...Arius Dion said...<BR/><BR/>Also doesn't Malstrom also state how Wii aims to render the other two competitors irrelevant?<BR/><BR/>-<BR/><BR/>The other two competitors have been irrelevant from the start. That's why I say there is no competition. Nintendo has won from day one. The competition is non-existent right now.<BR/><BR/>And to end this:<BR/><BR/>When I say that "Nintendo is not competing directly", what I'm really saying is that Nintendo is concentrating on a broader, more comprehensive market, the bulk of which is untouched by Sony and MS.<BR/>-<BR/>Here is an example of direct competition:<BR/><BR/>AMD Processors<BR/>vs.<BR/>Intel Processors<BR/>-<BR/>Here is an example of indirect competition:<BR/><BR/>Boeing 747 Airplanes<BR/>vs.<BR/>Bombardier Private Jets.<BR/><BR/>In this example, Boeing is not selling planes to the same consumers that buy Private Jets, at least not in significant numbers. And vice-versa.<BR/><BR/>There is a nuance between the two concepts.<BR/><BR/>PeaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-59726320410994692092009-03-18T21:56:00.000-07:002009-03-18T21:56:00.000-07:00Malstrom is the man. Your quote is taken from the ...Malstrom is the man. Your quote is taken from the point where he is describing the landscape and current idealogy of third parties concerning the Wii.<BR/><BR/>You can't be "competing on one hand" and NOT competing on the other. Competing for third party support is competing no matter how you wanna spin it.<BR/><BR/>Also doesn't Malstrom also sate how Wii aims to render the other two competitors irrelevant?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-76014187203150744732009-03-18T19:44:00.000-07:002009-03-18T19:44:00.000-07:00Arius Dion said... Sure, keep telling yourself tha...Arius Dion said... <BR/>Sure, keep telling yourself that, kid. While you're at it revision history since N64 was so much more powerful than the PS1, turns out THEY weren't competing either. Did you even read the article? The FACT that third parties have threatened SONY with allocating resources from them to Nintendo is proof that the folks that matter, see them as competitors.<BR/><BR/>It is really that simple. Wii is the market leader because it has sold nearly what the HD consoles have sold combined. If the only distinction is resolution, that's not enough of a distinction to claim "they aren't competing"<BR/><BR/>It just sounds like "If you can't beat em..ignore em"<BR/><BR/>8:52 AM, March 18, 2009<BR/><BR/>-On the subject of resource re-allocation. Yes, third parties may be threatening Sony with the possibility of allocating resources to the development and promotion of Wii software. I agree, that means that Sony is competing for third party support, in the form of resource allocation. However, that has nothing to do with Nintendo competing in the consumer market. Nintendo doesn’t even care about third party support. The top selling games on Wii are all first party, and are all system sellers. How much money does Nintendo make on 3rd party games compared to the games they make themselves? So there, Nintendo is not competing for 3rd party support, they don’t even need to! The 3rd parties don’t need extra incentive to develop for Wii either. They have been fooling themselves all along and now they finally see what’s there. The Wii has the largest installed base, duh, so they should invest there. The developers are threatening Sony because they see no other way of coaxing Sony into dropping their hardware prices, so that they can sell more software to a larger installed base. It’s all a game…<BR/><BR/>Quote from you…<BR/><BR/>“If the only distinction is resolution, that's not enough of a distinction to claim "they aren't competing"”<BR/><BR/>So how do you explain this?<BR/><BR/>“Game makers now focus development in two directions: one for the top-selling Wii and the other for Xbox 360, PS3 and personal computers.”<BR/>(Taken from the article we are now discussing!)<BR/><BR/>-Developers focus in two separate developmental directions in order to make games with half the screen display resolution? And you are saying that “I” did not read the article?<BR/><BR/>-I already said this…The top selling Wii games are developed from the ground up for Wii only, and they are made to appeal to the widest audience possible. The experience you’ll have with a Wii game is completely different from the experience you’ll have with a game from a different console. That is how the best selling Wii games are not competing with the best selling X360, PS3 games. I’m only talking about the best selling games because that is what developers and investors care about. Maximum profitability is what they are striving for. And if they make games that compete directly with HD console games, then the consumers will buy the HD versions of the game, because they know a watered down game when they see one. What sold better: “Call of Duty Wii” or “Call of Duty HD”? See how they fail? You can’t compete directly; you have to offer something different, jeez, are you blind to this? 50 million people can’t be wrong! The consumers buy Wii Fit and Wii Play, not CoD Watered down. Don’t forget that many more consumers own multiple platforms this generation compared to two generation back. There is not use in making a game on Wii that competes directly with X360 etc, and the sales figures prove it, you can’t deny that.<BR/><BR/>And I want to stress this sentence:<BR/>“You can’t compete directly; you have to offer something different.”<BR/>Wii’s success is built on that. It don’t take a genius to see it.<BR/><BR/>Ok…somebody mentioned Malstrom!<BR/><BR/>I love that guy’s articles! I read “Birdmen and the Casual Fallacy” and I read his entire Blue Ocean article series. And basically, those articles are showing how Nintendo Zigged when the industry Zagged, and that alone shows that Malstrom believes that Nintendo is not in direct competition with MS and Sony.<BR/><BR/>Basically, according to Malstrom, Nintendo has created a “Blue Ocean” and that, of course, has nothing to do with all this nonsense about “casual gamers”, but rather has everything to do with Nintendo’s philosophy of “fighting against indifference.”<BR/><BR/>I won’t spoil it too much; I encourage you all to read it, and not to misinterpret it…<BR/><BR/>Anyway…Sorry for taking up so much space MetalDave, I usually don’t, but Arius Dion insulted me twice already and I want people to see all the facts behind what I believe and how he contradicted himself. In the end, I’m a Wii only user too, so chill out people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-15978047311046163992009-03-18T11:22:00.000-07:002009-03-18T11:22:00.000-07:00Nintendo: “We are following the strategy of disrup...Nintendo: “We are following the strategy of disruption!”<BR/>NPD: “Nintendo wins!”<BR/>Journalist: “How are you winning, Nintendo?”<BR/>Nintendo: “We are following the strategy of disruption!”<BR/>Journalist: (ignores Nintendo) “What is going on here, analysts and third parties?”<BR/>Analyst: “It is a casual gamer boom!”<BR/>Third Parties: “OMG! Easy money! Quick guys, everyone start making casual games!”<BR/>Nintendo: “We are following the strategy of disruption!”<BR/>Journalist: (philosophically) “Will casual games cause the downfall of the hardcore games? Let me write many editorials about this!”<BR/>Analyst: (philosophically) “Is the casual game boom a fad? Let us pontificate over this.”<BR/>Third Parties: “Hey guys! How you like my casual games? They sure are snazzy! I will make millions! I am such the business whiz!”<BR/>Nintendo: “We are following the strategy of disruption!”<BR/>Journalist: (scratches head) “You hear something?”<BR/>Analyst: “It was just Nintendo speaking. They are saying the same thing.”<BR/>Journalist: “Yeah! Haha! Same old marketing speak. I am so much smarter about business than Nintendo. In my next interview with Iwata, I’ll give him some business lessons.”<BR/>Third Parties: (cries) “Oh no! My casual games are not selling!”<BR/>Journalist: “Obviously, this is because people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.”<BR/>Analyst: “Nintendo needs to assist these third parties in getting their casual games to sell.”<BR/>Third Parties: “That’s right! They need to do what WE want them to!”<BR/>Nintendo: “We are following the strategy of disruption!”<BR/>Journalist: (yawns) “Is that all they say? (becomes excited) Ohhh! Look! A new hardcore game is being made with fresh textures.” (runs off)<BR/>Analyst: “Obviously, Sony and Microsoft are branching with casual games themselves. Poor Nintendo. Too bad they are out of tricks. I expect Playstation 3 to be surpassing them in a year or two. The market revolves around technology you know.”<BR/>Third Parties: “My casual games aren’t selling? Why!? I do not understand!”<BR/><BR/>Is it not amazing how everyone talks about the casual gamer boom except Nintendo? Instead, Nintendo keeps talking disruption while everyone either ignores these quotes or misinterpret ‘disruption’ to mean ‘change’ or ‘innovation’.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-30500518605999949152009-03-18T10:30:00.000-07:002009-03-18T10:30:00.000-07:00post above please read birdman artical nintendo AR...post above please read birdman artical nintendo ARE in direct competition AND DIDNT PS2 SELL TO THE EXPANDED MARKET....<BR/><BR/>THERES NO SUCH THING AS A CASUAL OR CORE CONSOLE THERE IS ONLY GAMES CONSOLES THAT ARE ALL IN COMPETITION <BR/><BR/>http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html<BR/><BR/>GO THERE READ ARTICLE AND SEE THE TRUTH BEHIND NINTENDO S PLAN its basically destroy the industry around it stand alone as the winner and control it from then on the wii is the nes/snes alover again build the games industry from scratch remember nintendo holds power over gaming like the federal bank does the global economy NINTENDO ARE THAT POWERFUL <BR/><BR/><BR/>GO READ THE ARTICAL NINTENDOS ENEMYS ARE CLEARLY SONY AND MICROSOFT DONT EVEN TRY TO DENY ITAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-29135689833946539052009-03-18T09:01:00.000-07:002009-03-18T09:01:00.000-07:00Nintendo created another market by changing the wa...Nintendo created another market by changing the way we interact with gaming. They realized that 20 button configurations were too intimidating to most people, gamers or not. This single factor blew everyone away. Of course, the naysayers will be singing a different tune when the other consoles implement or copies this type of controller. The fact that Nintendo "CONTINUES" to innovate is what also sets them apart. Whether you like it or not, Nintendo always seems to be 1 to 2 steps ahead. From 8-bit machines to today, they always bring something (that incidentally,everyone copies) to the industry. This generation, their Wii remote/motion control is the thing to beat. And as we all know, Microsoft and Sony are scrambling to come out with their version of the Wii remote. I now prefer to play my games with the Wii remote than even dual action joysticks/controllers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-67567266157543730402009-03-18T08:52:00.000-07:002009-03-18T08:52:00.000-07:00Sure, keep telling yourself that, kid. While you'r...Sure, keep telling yourself that, kid. While you're at it revision history since N64 was so much more powerful than the PS1, turns out THEY weren't competing either. Did you even read the article? The FACT that third parties have threatened SONY with allocating resources from them to Nintendo is proof that the folks that matter, see them as competitors.<BR/><BR/>It is really that simple. Wii is the market leader because it has sold nearly what the HD consoles have sold combined. If the only distinction is resolution, that's not enough of a distinction to claim "they aren't competing"<BR/><BR/>It just sounds like "If you can't beat em..ignore em"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-21553557664625731672009-03-18T06:01:00.000-07:002009-03-18T06:01:00.000-07:00Arius Dion said... I love the whole "Wii is not in...Arius Dion said... <BR/>I love the whole "Wii is not in direct competition" line. Give it a break, kid. If they weren't in direct competition, the third parties wouldn't be threatening to allocate more resources to Nintendo.<BR/><BR/>6:53 PM, March 17, 2009<BR/>----------------------------<BR/>Um, I'm sorry but it's true...<BR/>Wii is not competing with PS3, X360 and PC. That's why there aren't any multiplatform games that make it to Wii, aside from the ones that go to PS2 to begin with. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part the only successful Wii games are those done from the ground up with design choices that cater to the Wii's market. And thus, these games are not made to compete directly with HD games, as they are completely different games, period.<BR/><BR/>A Call of Duty game on Wii, with watered down content will never sell as well as the HD counterparts. That's what I call "failed" direct competition. Whereas a game like Shawn White Snowboarding, which was made from the ground up for Wii, sold very well, and did much better critically than the HD versions.<BR/><BR/>The largest part of the Wii’s market is this new “expanded” market, and don’t try and tell me that piece comes from PS3, X360’s market share. This generation, Sony and MS concentrated on capturing as much of the competitors market share as possible, while Nintendo concentrated on creating a brand new market, and succeeded. They are mostly successful because they are NOT in direct competition with HD consoles.<BR/><BR/>That is a fact, so don’t ridicule me. I’m not the only one that sees this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-27473296333089087432009-03-17T22:27:00.000-07:002009-03-17T22:27:00.000-07:00Travis, is that a good or bad thing? lolTravis, is that a good or bad thing? lolMetaldavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933993273752328453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-56308695730766939162009-03-17T20:53:00.000-07:002009-03-17T20:53:00.000-07:00Despite this entire article boasting almost entire...Despite this entire article boasting almost entirely facts I thought I would point this out:<BR/><BR/>I grew up in Greenwood Village, CO where this Janco company is located.Travis Hendrickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14703742490513802482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-55239508564520399762009-03-17T18:53:00.000-07:002009-03-17T18:53:00.000-07:00I love the whole "Wii is not in direct competition...I love the whole "Wii is not in direct competition" line. Give it a break, kid. If they weren't in direct competition, the third parties wouldn't be threatening to allocate more resources to Nintendo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-39762753222298796482009-03-17T17:51:00.000-07:002009-03-17T17:51:00.000-07:00Nintendo took a big chance for this generation, an...Nintendo took a big chance for this generation, and they were right. In 2006, HD TVs had not penetrated the market. Having said said that, HD TVs are currently growing and I wouldn't mind playing Wii games in 720p WITH smooth frame rate.<BR/>I would definitely buy the "next" Wii or even a mid-level upgrade. I hope it will not just be HD, but a bump in polygons, hardware effects, physics, and etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-90495314227356575552009-03-17T16:46:00.000-07:002009-03-17T16:46:00.000-07:00BRING ON A WII UPGRADE THAT ALSO INCLUDES "SUPER R...BRING ON A WII UPGRADE THAT ALSO INCLUDES "SUPER RESOLUTION" AND HIGH PERFORMANCE AA,FILTERING KEEP COSTS LOW BUT ALSO BOOST GRAPHICS AND FULLY SUPPORT HD a wii HDi come on nintendo a DSi like upgrade with HD supprted thru super res makes perfect senseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-38046819957207481172009-03-17T16:27:00.000-07:002009-03-17T16:27:00.000-07:00The emphasis on high-definition was premature at b...The emphasis on high-definition was premature at best. As much as I enjoyed the HD visuals and content from the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, I can still live without them.<BR/><BR/>I remember Matt from IGN go apeshit over Nintendo not taking the Wii, which was Revolution at the time, to high-definition, saying that it is an insane move. Now, it looks like Matt has to eat his own words because the consumers have spoken - high-definition was never the key to success in this generation. The only thing it can provide is convenience for the consumer, but for the business, that is another story. Bar none, high-definition will eventually be the next standard in the next couple of years, but for gaming, it's not there yet and Sony and Microsoft will have to settle with getting very little out of it.<BR/><BR/>With that said, many third-party developers will continue to be stubborn about the Wii's profitability. They still will try to give the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 a chance because the industry has become more tech-based than ever before. Don't expect a huge jump on Nintendo's platform just yet, not until they bring out WiiHD or Wii 2 or whatever pipe dream that helps put hardcore gamers to sleep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-80719573062083311572009-03-17T14:35:00.000-07:002009-03-17T14:35:00.000-07:00The Wii ain't in direct competition with the PS3, ...The Wii ain't in direct competition with the PS3, so Sony cannot have a piece of Nintendo's pie anyway. The pie is exclusive.<BR/><BR/>One of your quotes even said that development of games has taken 2 branches:<BR/><BR/>-Wii<BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>-X360, PS3, PC<BR/><BR/>The second branch is becoming less profitable, duh, because the 3 platforms are competing directly creating some kind of cannibalizing effect.<BR/><BR/>Low cost, fun, globally appealing games are the future of this industry.<BR/><BR/>MS and Sony have lost.<BR/><BR/>So now whoever believed that HD (cough... HIGH COST...cough) games were the future, is now paying the price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-38096514573822252592009-03-17T11:50:00.000-07:002009-03-17T11:50:00.000-07:00Wii is the number 1 console and yet most of the ga...Wii is the number 1 console and yet most of the games we get are ports with Ps2 graphics and the games that we do get that have good graphics are rare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-16640787751166146142009-03-17T11:38:00.000-07:002009-03-17T11:38:00.000-07:00forget sony there are at least 25 million core wii...forget sony there are at least 25 million core wii gamers that want AAA games more oftenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15197605.post-50245282038625474792009-03-17T10:08:00.000-07:002009-03-17T10:08:00.000-07:00im sorry but this 3rd party sony suck up is going ...im sorry but this 3rd party sony suck up is going to destroy gaming WHY ARE THEY DEMANDING A PS3 PRICE CUT when theres a console called wii doing the sales they require IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PS3 AND SONY ANYMORE talk about barking up the wrong tree 3RD PARTYS WII BIT OF ADVICE BACK Wii and stop sack licking sonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com